Doubting Thomas by Nickel Creek

When doubt has me down, songs can be a great soothing balm. Some songs give comfort, some hope, some come alongside me in my hurt and pain. Here’s one that has been all of the above.

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What will be left when I’ve drawn my last breath,
Besides the folks I’ve met and the folks who know me,
Will I discover a soul saving love,
Or just the dirt above and below me,

I’m a ,
I took a promise,
But I do not feel safe,
Oh me of little faith,

Sometimes I pray for a slap in the face,
Then I beg to be spared ’cause I’m a coward,
If there’s a master of I’ll bet he’s holding his breath,
As I show the blind and tell the deaf about his power,
I’m a doubting thomas,
I can’t keep my promises,
‘Cause i don’t know what’s safe,
oh me of little faith

Can I be used to help others find truth,
When I’m scared I’ll find proof that its a lie,
Can I be lead down a trail dropping bread crumbs,
That prove I’m not ready to die,

Please give me time to decipher the signs,
Please forgive me for time that I’ve wasted,

I’m a doubting thomas,
I’ll take your promise,
Though I know nothin’s safe,
Oh me of little faith

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Pascal’s Pensées Audiobook Podcast Feed

While searching for something to listen to on my commute, I found this free audiobook podcast feed of ’s Pensées. It is available for free download via Librivox.org. Total running time is over 11 hours.  The Librivox page has links to all the texts and audio files, but the quickest way is to click on the links below:

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Update: Recommend just listening to Sections 3 & 4. If you have time, maybe Section 7. I didn’t find much usefulness in the rest. Below are some good quotes:

There is enough light for those who want to believe and enough shadows to blind those who don’t. — Blaise Pascal

There are only three types of people; those who have found God and serve him; those who have not found God and seek him, and those who live not seeking, or finding him. The first are rational and happy; the second unhappy and rational, and the third foolish and unhappy. — Blaise Pascal

Reason’s final step is to realize that there are an infinite number of things which lie beyond it. It is simply feeble if it does not get as far as realizing that. — Blaise Pascal

There are two kinds of people one can call reasonable; those who serve God with all their heart because they know Him, and those who seek Him with all their heart because they do not know Him. — Blaise Pascal, SECTION III: OF THE NECESSITY OF THE WAGER

For it is indubitable that this life is but an instant of time, that the state of is eternal, whatever its nature may be, and thus that all our actions and thoughts must follow such different paths according to the state of this eternity, that the only possible way of acting with sense and judgement is to decide our course in the light of this point, which ought to be our ultimate objective. — Blaise Pascal, Pensées (427)

Men despise religion; they hate it and fear it is true. To remedy this, we must begin by showing that religion is not contrary to reason; that it is venerable, to inspire respect for it; then we must make it lovable, to make good men hope it is true; finally, we must prove it is true. Venerable, because it has perfect knowledge of man; lovable because it promises the true good. — Blaise Pascal, Pensées (187)

What can be seen on earth indicates neither the total absence, nor the manifest presence of divinity, but the presence of a hidden God. Everything bears this stamp. — Blaise Pascal, Pensées (449) / 142

We know truth not only through our reason but also through our heart. It is through the latter that we know first principles, and reason, which has nothing to do with it, tries in vain to refute them. — Blaise Pascal, Pensées (110) / 28

I should be much more afraid of being mistaken and then finding out that Christianity is true than of being mistaken in believing it to be true. — Blaise Pascal, Pensées (386 /241)

Truth is so obscured nowadays and lies [are] so well established that unless we love the truth we shall never recognize it. — Blaise Pascal

Prophecies. If a single man had written a book foretelling the time and manner of Jesus’ coming and Jesus had come in conformity with these prophecies, this would carry infinite weight. But there is much more here. There is a succession of men over a period of 4,000 years, coming consistently and invariably one after the other, to foretell the same coming; there is an entire people proclaiming it, existing for 4,000 years to testify in a body to the certainty they feel about it, from which they cannot be deflected by whatever threats and persecutions they may suffer. This is of a quite different order of importance. — Blaise Pascal, Pensees, 332

We know the truth, not only by the reason, but also by the heart. — Blaise Pascal

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The Resurrection of Jesus, A New Historiographical Approach by Michael Licona

I am going to start another large book, “The Resurrection of Jesus, A New Historiographical Approach” by . Licona says that this book seeks to produce a historical description of whether Jesus rose from the dead. Even though I know that Licona believes that Jesus rose from the dead, and that his book may slant the interpretation of the data to that belief, I feel like this book with it’s focus on the historical method will be helpful. The book looks daunting with 718 pages, but it should provide some good insight. I will try to provide reviews of different chapter as I go through this book. Wish me luck.

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Desperate by Fireflight

Some may find this song by Fireflight helpful. There are some gems in the lyrics (see below). I also like the music as it encompasses some of the anger and desperation I feel inside.

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Seek and you will find, they say
but I’ve been looking everyday
for a way past this wall that’s in front of my face I’m on hands and knees searching for my faith

I know there’s so much at stake
but I don’t know if I can take one more pat on the back saying I’ll be okay Can’t you see my whole life is in disarray

You’ve got me desperate

I know You hear me,
Would You give me a sign
Reel me in before I’ve fallen in line
You’ve put me on a path I don’t understand I’m standing on a ledge waving my hands

You’ve got me desperate (do You see me?) Desperate (do You hear me?) Desperate (will You help me?) You’ve got me desperate

I know You’re my only hope
The only One who truly knows how it feels, what it’s like when it all starts to fall You’re the One I can trust who hears when I call

Some things I’ll never figure out
Until I let hope erase my doubt

You’ve got me desperate

I know You hear me,
Would You give me a sign
Reel me in before I’ve fallen in line
You’ve put me on a path I don’t understand, I’m standing on a ledge waving my hands

You’ve got me desperate (do You see me?) Desperate (do You hear me?) Desperate (will You help me?) You’ve got me desperate

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Till sight needs not to prove

Here is a link to a fascinating story of George Romanes by Dr. Timothy McGrew. When I was first sent this story by Dr. McGrew I wept while reading it. I don’t know if it is the lack of sleep, the 80+ hour work weeks that had depleted my energy, or feeling like I have hit rock bottom, but the struggle between science and faith that Romanes dealt with hit so close to home. I felt so connected to Romanes in his struggles. Specifically with regards to . I keep hitting this wall of not being able to believe in the supernatural, especially when naturalistic explanations do so well. I just don’t know if I will be able to allow for a belief of something outside of nature when my mind has been wired to always think scientifically. I just don’t know what will get me past that. I hope that it will not take going through the valley of to convince me, as it seemed to happen with Romanes. And at that time will I turn to faith out of fear of the unknown? Would it even be sincere?

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Christian vs Atheist Debates

One of the great resources that I’ve found is debates between Christians and Atheists. In debates both sides put forth their best arguments. It becomes an efficient way to get the main points of both sides. I also enjoy that I can listen to the audio files on my long commutes. So I will be trying to keep a good list of debates on this site, and where time allows try to review them. However with 561 debates currently listed this is already a daunting task. I set it up so that you can filter and search the debate database. Enjoy.

Christian vs Atheist Debates

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New look and a new focus

In parallel to blogging I was trying to keep notes on my doubt research. I put it up on a wiki with hopes that others could add to it and make improvements. However, after many a night trying to work with the restrictions of wikimedia and the more en-depth knowledge of php and MySQL that was required, I finally gave up on making a community knowledge-base. So I decided to start putting together a resource page using wordpress. I again faced restrictions that required me to find a different theme that would allow more flexibility. So here is the new format. It’s nothing special, but it will get the job done.

Hopefully this new format will allow me to put more content on here and to focus my thoughts more. I’ll also be trying to pull in all my loose leaf paper notes that have been piling up over the years (yes it’s been almost 4 years now).

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When Worlds Collide

At my mom’s funeral I was talking to one of my relatives. She said that she was trying to find my address on the internet (I believe to send me a sympathy card) but couldn’t find it. She went on to say that there were many Mark Lefers and even one that had a blog called Christian Doubt.

In that brief moment some things rushed through my head:

1. There aren’t many Mark Lefers. I’ve found only one other on the planet. Lefers is a fairly uncommon last name.

2. I am at my mom funeral. My mom was a strong Christian, who raised me in a Christian home. Who sent me to Christian schools, who brought me to church each week, and who was a Christ like example in my life.

3. I am in the church that I grew up in and surrounded by Christians. Actually it was packed, so there was perhaps 5 other Christians in arms reach of me.

I was faced with hiding my unbelief, which I think would have been perfectly fine. But something inside of me burst out and I responded, “Yeah, that’s me”. As soon as I said it I wish I could have taken it back. This was not the time or place to discuss my unbelief. So I said, “We can talk about this later”. I think she was fine with avoiding what would have been an awkward conversation.

I think the reason why I blurted out “Yeah, that’s me”, was because I was tired of lying about my unbelief. I had spent the last several days lying (or at least not being upfront) about my unbelief. I was great a justifying my dishonesty.

“Bringing up my unbelief would be disrespectful to the memory of my mom.”

“This is not the time or place to get into this.”

“They don’t really need to know.”

“It is much easier to just go with the party line.”

“I want to believe, so going through the motions isn’t really wrong.”

But the lack of sleep and the emotional stress caused me to give up pretending for a moment.

This incident has caused me to re-think being open about who I am. There are a ton of reasons to hide behind a . However, when I started this blog I decided to use my real name. Some of the reasons were:

1. It forces me to be honest in what I write, because I will be held accountable for what I write.

2. I wanted to keep my doubt a secrete, however when I was looking for other Christians who doubted on the internet I couldn’t find that many. I don’t know if that is because there aren’t many doubters (which I don’t believe), or because other doubters also want to keep it secret. So I thought by putting my real identity out there, other doubters would take courage and talk to others about their doubts.

3. It was an attempt to be real. To not live a lie (I still do on Sunday mornings). I sometimes wish I could wear a shirt that would clearly say, “I don’t believe in Christianity, but I want to”. I wish I could wear a hat that said, “I’m a doubter”. However, I’m not that bold. So putting up a blog on the internet with my real name was the next best thing.

I still think it is good to use my real identity, however, I may have to get used to when my worlds collide. When my Christian sphere (friends, family, church, etc.) collides with my sphere of unbelief.

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My heart longs for something more

My mom had been battling cancer for about four years. This past summer the main chemo treatment stopped working. She tried some second generation chemos which didn’t work and eventually she decided to go into hospice. Her lasts weeks were tough as she was in a lot of pain, so we all had mixed emotions when she passed away on January 5, 2011.

Her has been tough on the family. Even though we knew that she wasn’t going to live much longer, it was so very difficult to see her slip away into a coma and take her last breath an hour later. It was the saddest moment of my life.

These last several days I have been thinking about death, , and the desire for an . When I sat by her bedside and held her hand, I couldn’t help but hope that her pain would be short lived and that she would soon be in and be free from all her pain. I wanted her to see her mom and the dad she never knew (he died in WWII before she was born). And when she passed away I wanted to one day hold her in my arms and tell her that I love her.

My desire for an afterlife was (and still is) so strong. I don’t want this short life to be all that there is. As I look at myself in the mirror and see the new wrinkles on my face, the growing number of gray hairs on my head, and the weakening of my eyesight; I know that someday I too will face death. But death is cruel. Death is not how it should be. However, wanting and desiring life after death doesn’t make it true. Hoping that my mom is in heaven and pain free is comforting, but maybe it is just wishful thinking.

My mom was one of the strongest Christians I know. She served others humbly, was a prayer warrior, and lived a Christ filled life. The many people that came to her wake and funeral to offer condolences often spoke of her faith. They would offer words of peace that she was with Jesus now, that she was in heaven, and that she was with the multitude of Christians that have gone before her. The words and hugs were comforting, but again the cynic inside would wonder if this was again just wishful thinking.

Another aspect I have been thinking about is how my mom faced her death with courage. She was aware of her body failing as she struggled for each breath. She was aware that she was slipping away, but she held her goal in sight. She did not waver. Her faith made her strong. It was a strength that I wish I might have one day. But again the cynic inside would wonder if it is all just wishful thinking.

It will be a tough couple more weeks and months ahead as I mourn the loss of my mom. The thoughts of death, heaven, the desire for an afterlife, and the hope that Christianity gives will probably consume me for awhile. Her death also put things into perspective. Life is short and then you die, so make the most of it. And when I say make the most of it, I don’t mean waste it by partying like there’s no tomorrow, I mean search for truth and whether there is an afterlife and how to get it, because death is a terrible thing.

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O me of little faith

Things have been very busy for me recently. Work has slowed down a bit ~70 hr/wk, but other family matters have arisen which I may discuss in a future post. Last week was even tougher because I was away from my family for a week on a business trip to New Orleans. The trip wasn’t all bad, because I did have some down time in which I got to read. I brought with me a great book by , “O me of little faith”. It is a glimpse of a journey of a Christian doubter who still clings to faith but still asks the hard questions. Before you get your hopes up, Jason’s book doesn’t come with any answers, and he is unsure if there really are answers to his questions. Jason’s book is more about how he is trying to LIVE in uncertainty and doubt.

I loved Jason’s honesty and humbleness. I found a Christian who questions the usefulness of prayer, who questions whether Christianity isn’t just manmade, and who gets somewhat cynical about the overly-spiritualized church. Yet, he doesn’t give up on his faith. He struggles with it, but still pushes on. He feels that faith is worth the effort. Why does he choose faith? He says:

Mainly, because I hope. “Faith is being sure of what we hope for,” the author of Hebrews wrote, “and certain of what we do not see” (11:1). I’m not exactly “certain” of anything, but I’m sure of what I hope for: I hope there’s something more than a dust-to-dust, grow-old-and-then-you-die material existence. I hope God exists.

Sure, this is a pathetically weak type of faith. Some may even call it wishful thinking. However, it might be the mustard seed size faith Jesus was talking about.

Doubt is an inherently depressing topic to write about, but Jason infuses his book with comic relief, which helped me to keep on reading. Many times, he had me laughing inside, and a few times, I actually laughed out loud. I also enjoyed that he voiced his skeptical internal voice, which sounded a lot like my internal dialogue.

The one “problem” with the book was that it jumped from topic to topic, however I think that style fit with the subject of the book. Doubters tend to jump from issue to issue because one question leads to another, which leads to another, which makes it hard to stay focus.

I would definitely recommend this book. It is not a big time commitment and it was a very enjoyable read. The book was even small enough to fit in my back pocket as I brought it to a couple of restaurants to read during my trip to New Orleans. (It was so nice to be able to eat at an outside café and enjoy good food and a good book!)

Jason describes a faith that I hope to have one day. It is a weak faith that continues to doubt, but a faith nonetheless. Jason is honest about his feelings but still seeks the Lord. Unfortunately, the skeptic in me still wonders if Jason is just being a hopeful believer.

Note: Jason Boyett also has a great blog.

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